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    sonicbum
    Lackey

    Posts: 5
    From:Fairfax, VA, US
    Registered: Jun 2000

    posted 06-25-2000 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sonicbum   Click Here to Email sonicbum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Ok, I've had a DVD for 8 months, and I'm finally upgrading my sound to a true surround sound system (currently using a set of stereo speakers). I've been an audiophile for years, but have lost my edge lately. Some questions I have:

    Which is better, optical or coaxial DVD outputs? Some would jump out and say optical, but I've also read that coaxial is cleaner since it doesn't have to go through the 'optical' conversion.

    What is the best video output? My TV accepts S-Video, but is component (separate jacks for each color) better? And is there something better than components out there for DVD?

    Thanks for any help.

    Sulfuric Acid
    Bruiser

    Posts: 33
    From:Derry, NH USA
    Registered: Apr 2000

    posted 06-27-2000 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulfuric Acid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Coax over Optical except if you are using glass fiber(usually 150+/meter). Don't buy cheap cables get the good stuff. www.bettercables.com is pretty good stuff.

    Component is the best way to go for hooking up your Television then S-Video then ick RCA.

    Pete

    nthooze
    Big Cheese

    Posts: 35
    From:aptos, CA, 95003
    Registered: Dec 99

    posted 07-07-2000 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nthooze   Click Here to Email nthooze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Ya that's the best for TV and the best from normal DVD players. A real good way to get a better display is to move to PCDVD and either use a computer monitor or you can use a XGA or better Projector. This method offers both non-interlaced or progressive scan refresh, which removes the filcker that plagues TV and is also much higher resolution than TV, giving a far sharper image. The image quality is definetly far better than TV, and when done right is very film like. This allows you to get the most out of the DVD, which must actually dumb down to be displayed on a TV.

    There are DVD decoder cards for computers too. These decode the image, removing the processing load from the main processor and they also extract and pass-on the digital sound output for your digital reciever. I've got a hollywood+ Real Magic card, Sigma http://www.sigmadesigns.com/ Designs and must say it works quite well.

    I admit that I'm no expert on the ways of High Def. TV, but will say that the cost is prohibitive and the format seems not adaptive enough to warrent the investment. So I'll just stick to the PC for now and wait to see how high def. developes.

    [This message has been edited by nthooze (edited 07-07-2000).]

    BrendanDCN
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    From:Thornhill, Ontario, Canada
    Registered: Apr 2000

    posted 07-15-2000 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrendanDCN   Click Here to Email BrendanDCN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Can someone tell me where I can buy an RF modulator online?
    I've been running around electronics stores in my area, and the best I can do are RF modulators for Playstation and N64.

    Here's what I'd like to do.

    I'd like to run the video output of my Hollywood Magic Plus card to Input 1 of my VCR, and then watch DVDs on that input. My TV does not have RCA/Composite Inputs, or S-Video......

    Ideas, Suggestions are appreciated!

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    "Life isn't interesting until you blow something up" --Anon.

    sonicbum
    Lackey

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    From:Fairfax, VA, US
    Registered: Jun 2000

    posted 07-17-2000 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sonicbum   Click Here to Email sonicbum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by BrendanDCN:
    I'd like to run the video output of my Hollywood Magic Plus card to Input 1 of my VCR, and then watch DVDs on that input. My TV does not have RCA/Composite Inputs, or S-Video......

    I know on most DVD's, if you try to run them through a VCR for an older TV... you will get that anti-copy light/dark thing. It's like turning your TV brightness up and down, and makes watching DVD's unbearable. I originally had a TV with no RCA/S-Video Inputs, and no mater what I did, it would look the same. You will likely need to find a way to connect straight to your TV, or do what I had to do and buy a new TV.

    codestah
    Big Cheese

    Posts: 108
    From:San Jose, California USA
    Registered: Dec 99

    posted 07-21-2000 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for codestah   Click Here to Email codestah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by sonicbum:
    I know on most DVD's, if you try to run them through a VCR for an older TV... you will get that anti-copy light/dark thing.

    Fortunately for Brendan, there are several crack tools available for the H+ card which will permit him to disable macrovision such that he will not have a problem.

    Edge
    Big Cheese

    Posts: 147
    From:Sunnyvale, CA
    Registered: Dec 99

    posted 07-27-2000 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Edge   Click Here to Email Edge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    quote:
    Which is better, optical or coaxial DVD outputs? Some would jump out and say optical, but I've also read that coaxial is cleaner since it doesn't have to go through the 'optical' conversion.

    I've used both.. and the difference has been minimal. I'm using coax now and the majority of people out there that are "sure" they know what they're talking about will recommend coax.. maybe they're all right.

    quote:
    What is the best video output? My TV accepts S-Video, but is component (separate jacks for each color) better? And is there something better than components out there for DVD?

    S-video will knock out some of the artifacting that occurs with composite (RCA) connectors such as "dot crawl" and color bleeding. Component connectors are the best ... but the difference between S-Video and composite is much more recognizable than S-Video to Component.

    -mf

    Edge
    Big Cheese

    Posts: 147
    From:Sunnyvale, CA
    Registered: Dec 99

    posted 07-27-2000 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Edge   Click Here to Email Edge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    quote:
    Can someone tell me where I can buy an RF modulator online? I've been running around electronics stores in my area, and the best I can do are RF modulators for Playstation and N64.

    I've bought a number of RF modulators for others who need to get a DVD player running on an older television with only a coax input (cable). You can get them at your local Radio Shack. Macrovision will not be a problem as long as you stay away from routing through your VCR (or look into cracks as Sean mentioned).

    - mf

    BrendanDCN
    Lackey

    Posts: 14
    From:Thornhill, Ontario, Canada
    Registered: Apr 2000

    posted 08-01-2000 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrendanDCN   Click Here to Email BrendanDCN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Well folks.......
    Macrovision problem is solved.....now the output of the H+ card is only coming out in black and white....however, I ran into a friend who happens to work at a radio shack, who's gonna help me out....
    Oh, and just to point out
    A quick check of a CANADIAN Radio Shack will not reveal an RF Modulator for anything but an N64 or Playstation. Trying to purchase it thru the online catalogue will not work in Canada, as the Radio Shack catalogue number does not exist in the Canadian catalogue...I'm going to be picking one up soon thanks to my friend within the company, but sometimes, things just ain't as easy as they seem....and as a few people I know have learnt, customs can be a *****

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