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    Edge
    Big Cheese

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    posted 04-28-2000 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Edge   Click Here to Email Edge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    If I'm going to spend two hours watching a film again to here the commentary track, I would like to know if it's going to be worth the time... can anyone recommend any commentary tracks they thought were very entertaining or informative?

    Thanks!

    - mf

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    posted 04-28-2000 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for codestah   Click Here to Email codestah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    you know... I haven't listened to it all the way through yet.. but I found the commentary on the Usual Suspects to be quite entertaining and intelligent. I'll definitely be giving that a complete once-through the next chance I get.

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    Sulfuric Acid
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    posted 05-01-2000 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulfuric Acid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Though I've listened to a few it's hard to watch the movie, go through all the extras and then watch the movie again with the commentaries on. Definitely not a one sitting kind of thing anyways.

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    codestah
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    posted 05-01-2000 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for codestah   Click Here to Email codestah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Anyone who suggests otherwise has WAY too much time on their hands. Commentary tracks are there on the assumption that you did not BUY the DVD instead of rent it only to watch it once and shelf it forever.

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    nthooze
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    posted 05-03-2000 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nthooze   Click Here to Email nthooze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    I got my hands on a copy of Pink Floyd's The Wall disk and was very pleasntly supprised to find that the elusive Roger Waters was a member of the comnentary track. I'm a huge fan of Pink Floyd and yet I've honestly never heard more than a few words spoken by Roger other than the music of coarse. Anyway I actually watched the disk with comentary before watching it normaly. The Track was very insitefull. it also featured the artist that did the animations, and who can forget those images. Anyway The Walls commentary is well worth the time and money of any Floyd fan.

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    Edge
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    posted 05-03-2000 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Edge   Click Here to Email Edge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Someone once told me they bought Contact.. watched it... then listened to each commentary track ... one after the other. I think there's 3 commentary tracks on that disc. If you were looking for someone with too much time on their hands.. I found them.

    If you're into "lighting techniques"... 'In the Mouth of Madness' has the perfect commentary track for you.

    - mf

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    posted 05-11-2000 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Has to be American Pie, very funny and informative. I also apologise for having the spare time to write this.

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    Edge
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    posted 05-11-2000 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Edge   Click Here to Email Edge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Hey...

    It's okay to have spare time, y'know?

    - mf

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    J Higgins
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    posted 05-13-2000 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J Higgins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Whenever I buy or rent on DVD, if I like the show I at least TRY the comm track to give it a chance. Offhand, I have to say that half of them are worthless: Many times it seems as though the director (or whoever) was coerced into doing a track just so that the studio can put out a "special edition" -- even though the guy truly has nothing further insightful to say about his project.

    What one finds interesting or insightful is, of course, subjective. But I, for one, liked the following (among others).

    RUSHMORE (Criterion Ed.): The director and co-screenwriter are obviously excited by their work and like to talk about it. These are two young guys at the beginning of their careers, and it's exciting to think of what their creativity and energy will bring to the screen next.

    THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR (1968): Interesting from historical and sociological standpoint, exposes the cynical side of the film that I hadn't fully considered before.

    CHARADE: This is one of the funniest tracks I've ever heard, to hear these two old guys (dir and co-scr) lovingly quarrel over their movie and memories. Terrific classic!

    FIRST BLOOD: Surprisingly articulate discussion of film history, violence, Vietnam experience. I was expecting a gung-ho burnout on the track, but David Morrell is actually a softspoken university professor. Hmmmm.

    RUNAWAY BRIDE and PRETTY WOMAN: These two tracks don't exactly break any new ground, but Garry Marshall is such a warm personality that it's fun to sit in with him while he runs his flick. He actually seems glad to have a chance to talk to you, one on one. He shares his philosophy on movie-making and storytelling in general.

    As an example of a really bad track, I pick BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID, which is coming out this week. If the DVD uses the same track as the Laserdisc, you can skip it altogether. George Roy Hill is boring and grouchy and hostile to one of cinema's great films. I wish he got shot at the end instead of Newman and Redford.

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    posted 05-14-2000 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomaHawk   Click Here to Email TomaHawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    I don't have a suggestion for a good commentary track. I am just a bit annoyed when you say whoever watches these commentaries has too much time on their hands.

    How many DVDs are in your collections? How many of these DVDs have you watched? How many have you watched more than once? How many hours of your life have you "wasted" in front of the TV, just to watch a movie?

    I'm not against watching movies, or wasting time. Hell... if I had my way, I'd be playing video games for 20 hours a day. But - just because someone decides to watch a commentary to a movie that they've probably already seen 2 or 3 times (sometimes more than that) - it doesn't mean they have too much time on their hands. They already decided to take time out of their day to watch a movie. Why do they have too much time on their hands if they decide to watch it with a different audio track?

    That's just my opinion.
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    Lackey

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    posted 05-14-2000 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Lets end this topic on a nice note,
    some of us are blessed with more time than others, thats life.
    For example when you are lying in your bed at 8am, it is around 1pm for me (depending on where you live in US)so there.
    Also, I here rumours that Fight Club is going to set new standards on special editions.

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    Edge
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    posted 05-16-2000 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Edge   Click Here to Email Edge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by TomaHawk:
    - just because someone decides to watch a commentary to a movie that they've probably already seen 2 or 3 times (sometimes more than that) - it doesn't mean they have too much time on their hands. They already decided to take time out of their day to watch a movie. Why do they have too much time on their hands if they decide to watch it with a different audio track?

    As means of summing up your entire post with a sense of closure... you might as well ask 'Codestah' if he's ever listened to a commentary track.

    - mf

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    codestah
    Big Cheese

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    posted 05-16-2000 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for codestah   Click Here to Email codestah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by TomaHawk:
    I don't have a suggestion for a good commentary track. I am just a bit annoyed when you say whoever watches these commentaries has too much time on their hands.

    Well on the behalf of my own defense, anyone who actually READ the first 4 posts to this thread in sequence would not have so grossly misconstrued this.

    But squabble as you will..

    Meanwhile, on the other side of the Galaxy, I recal another commentary that I enjoy (and have enjoyed several times, actually) is that of Austin Powers.. very funny stuff with Mike Meyers and the Director in a casual conversation revealing their innermost secrets and fantasies. DEFINITELY worth sitting through. The movie actually seems SHORTER with the commentary running, somehow, but sure enough, it is full length.

    [This message has been edited by codestah (edited 05-16-2000).]

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    posted 05-16-2000 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for codestah   Click Here to Email codestah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by J Higgins:

    THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR (1968): Interesting from historical and sociological standpoint, exposes the cynical side of the film that I hadn't fully considered before.

    FIRST BLOOD: Surprisingly articulate discussion of film history, violence, Vietnam experience. I was expecting a gung-ho burnout on the track, but David Morrell is actually a softspoken university professor. Hmmmm.


    JH- Thanks.. I think I'll actualy give these two a go. I'd never have randomly thought to sit and look for commentaries on either of these, especially 1st Blood.

    -codes

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    Edge
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    posted 05-26-2000 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Edge   Click Here to Email Edge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    Speaking of Mike Meyers being funny - I saw a series of interviews on television with him and found exactly the opposite ... he was unfunny, boring, and rather uninspiring. I thought it was strange to say the least.. *shrug*

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    posted 05-26-2000 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Edge   Click Here to Email Edge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    quote:
    I'd never have randomly thought to sit and look for commentaries on either of these, especially 1st Blood.

    I actually quite liked First Blood considering it easily the best of the movies in the Rambo series (from what I can recall anyway)... it had it's own sense of style that I felt was obliterated along with all the explosions found in the following films.

    - mf

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    posted 07-15-2000 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrendanDCN   Click Here to Email BrendanDCN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    I know I'm joining this late.......
    Check out any of Kevin Smith's films...

    The commentary on those is hilarious, insightful, and often features some alternate viewing angles!

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    posted 08-28-2001 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apuch   Click Here to Email Apuch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
    I like the one on Seven Samauri. It is done by a film professor who knows the ins and outs of Kurasawa and the players history plus good info on style of directing. Especially good if you are interested in possibly making a movie of your own one day. Also the El Mariachi one is good on the dual DVD with Desperado (was dissapointed to find that the directors commentary is only track on this disc tho, i.e., cannot watch the movie El Mariachi as a movie).


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    Originally posted by Edge:
    If I'm going to spend two hours watching a film again to here the commentary track, I would like to know if it's going to be worth the time... can anyone recommend any commentary tracks they thought were very entertaining or informative?

    Thanks!

    - mf


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